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YouTube HDR... finally

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Kuschelmonschter
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YouTube HDR... finally

YouTube HDR content is finally available!

 

You will find a playlist here. However, these clips will be played as SDR on Sonys for now.

 

With youtube-dl you can find vp9.2 encodings for those clips:

 

330          webm       256x144    144p60  156k , vp9.2, 60fps, video only, 2.38MiB
331          webm       426x240    240p60  256k , vp9.2, 60fps, video only, 3.87MiB
332          webm       640x360    360p60  485k , vp9.2, 60fps, video only, 7.35MiB
333          webm       854x480    480p60  909k , vp9.2, 60fps, video only, 13.83MiB
334          webm       1280x720   720p60 1991k , vp9.2, 60fps, video only, 28.18MiB
335          webm       1920x1080  1080p60 3201k , vp9.2, 60fps, video only, 49.70MiB
336          webm       2560x1440  1440p60 11166k , vp9.2, 60fps, video only, 170.23MiB
337          webm       3840x2160  2160p60 20122k , vp9.2, 60fps, video only, 335.45MiB

 

 

Those are webm however which the native Video app won't play.

 

We will see whether we will get support for it soon, even for the early 2016 models with the old MediaTek SoC from last year. At least Sony promised that back at CES:

 

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YouTube will also start streaming in HDR quality later this year, using a new VP9-Profile 2 codec that brings HDR support to Google’s VP9 video format. Sony’s Motoi Kawamura, Head of TV Product Planning for Sony Europe, confirmed to FlatpanelsHD that the 2016 models will support VP9-Profile 2 and be capable of streaming YouTube in HDR. We saw a demo at CES and it looked very good.

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Kuschelmonschter
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sonyfan0012 schrieb:

LOL.

 

it's such an awesome app isn't it? The best.


Is your only goal provoking here? And you wonder why it is getting personal...

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Jecht_Sin
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sonyfan0012 wrote:

LOL.

 

it's such an awesome app isn't it? The best.


In my TV it still stutters much less frequently than the awful Amazon Video (which doesn't go above 30 fps) and now even Kodi. The app is fine, it's the CPU/OS couple in the television that's awful.

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Kuschelmonschter
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Tried FW 3.925 on my ATV1 based TV which claims to improve YouTube 4K...

 

  • Resolves YouTube 4K playback issue (2560 x 1440 resolution or higher)

 

Dunno which problem it solves, but it is not the micro-judder issue discussed in this thread. YouTube 2.0 CPU usage is still high, micro-juddering is still there for 1440p60 or 2160p60.

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Jecht_Sin
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Same on Android 7.0. It fixes nothing. The most it's doing is that now most of the 2160p@60fps videos I checked play at 1440p@60fps. And still with frame rate drops.

 

Not even the volume bar has been improved!! Most useless update ever until now. After 6 months I expected a fully working OS!

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he most it's doing is that now most of the 2160p@60fps videos I checked play at 1440p@60fps.

What do the nerd stats say about 'Connection Speed'?

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Jecht_Sin
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Kuschelmonschter wrote:

What do the nerd stats say about 'Connection Speed'?


It depends. from 18 to 35-40Mbps at 1440p@60fps. I tried the usual "The World in HDR" the last time and it went up to 2160p@60fps after more than a minute. Personally I don't see any improvement.

 

And no, HDR with vp9.2 is still not supported!! This update is a complete disappointment. Six months waiting for nothing. Apparently Sony is more interested on supporting Alexa and that useless Samba TV (which kept crashing every 10 seconds because I had it disabled) than on fixing this OS.

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Jecht_Sin
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So, the YouTube app has been updated, it claims it improves performances, but the only differences I see are the new (white. Urgh!) icon and the new animated splash gray screen.

 

In terms of performances just after the update it was stuttering playing 2160p@60fps videos. Then it has got smoother, just microstuttering as usual. I am starting to wonder if the vp9 codecs aren't broken, or worse, the ASIC doesn't fully support it at max performances.

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sonyfan0012
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It is a huge mistake what they did. A wrapper with this "web lean back
launcher" running on top. It's just bad and will stutter. It does even on
shield. Bad.
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I am starting to wonder if the vp9 codecs aren't broken, or worse, the ASIC doesn't fully support it at max performances.

You can download 2160p60 VP9 webm from YouTube and play it inside Kodi. I fetched quite some samples with Opus and Vorbis audio which play perfectly smooth at much lower CPU usage compared to the YouTube app. Kodi plays them from a fast NFS share though. Bandwidth is not the problem though.

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Jecht_Sin
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@Kuschelmonschter wrote:


I am starting to wonder if the vp9 codecs aren't broken, or worse, the ASIC doesn't fully support it at max performances.

You can download 2160p60 VP9 webm from YouTube and play it inside Kodi. I fetched quite some samples with Opus and Vorbis audio which play perfectly smooth at much lower CPU usage compared to the YouTube app.


Oh yeah, I didn't think about that. I think in the past I only downloaded few HDR videos at 30fps to test the HDR. I'll give it a try.

 

It's true that YouTube at 2160p@60 still uses an awful lot of CPU (I get 20% idle max).